Smith's Hometown Market

AI version of Smiths Market

 Smith's Hometown Markets (not the Kroger-owned chain in the western part of the country that I've mentioned before, Smiths Restaurant Supply, or the pioneering Smiths IGA on NY 90 in Genoa in Cayuga County the Finger Lakes) was a small chain in Onondaga and Madison Counties that may have started by the mid-'60s and went out of business in 2001-02 one by one, going the way of the Smiths.  Because very little information is available, I've had to dig a little as much of this has faded into obscurity.  Comments are welcomed.

Fayetteville - NY 5 & 257 at 104 Salt Springs St (picture found after a few weeks of intense research); where Arquette & Associates Real Estate (former Century 21 affiliate) are now, although Hometown stablemates Peters was where Kohls is today a mile or two away.  Both were also IGA franchises until the '80s.  Previously Red & White (which is still at some random indies).

Cazenovia - US 20 & NY 13, previously Harris (IGA?) Foodliner and Grand Union, now Kinney Pharmacy

Chittenango - NY 5 & 13, now Kinney Pharmacy

Minoa - Costello Parkway, now Sunshine Mini Mart

Brewerton - US 11 & Bartel Road, now Dollar General

Baldwinsville - NY 48, later Smokey Hollow Market, now vacant

East Syracuse - Kinne St & Kirkville Road, now Dollar Tree and Subway.  Previously Acme.

Manlius - NY 173, now Dollar Tree

Cicero - NY 31, now ALDI

Camillus - Milton Ave. & Hinsdale Rd. (off NY 5), Elm Hill Plaza.  Previously Snyders IGA and later Araces and Burnet Market. Now various businesses including 3fifteen and also Arquette until recently.

Shell

Bethel, CT location

 Shell may be a multinational big oil conglomerate with a reputation, but they pulled out of CNY by the time I was born.  Lately, Planet Fitness has a promotion for 25¢ off a gallon for members, but the closest US locations are in Ulster and Susquehanna Counties, so the deal is as useless for most members in Upstate NY as the Tops one would be in Yates, Rennselaer and Greene counties, which don't have Tops Xpress (for Price Chopper's, there would have to at least be a participating Sunoco somewhere in the vicinity).  I haven't been to Kingston, NY since 2000 when I lived across the river, and the only other Shell I've seen in recent memory is in Niagara Falls, ONT.  Maybe now is the time for a return to the region.  With Speedway locations overlapping Sunoco/7 Eleven/A Plus locations as the merger plays out (some have become Mobil already), there are spots they could open.  Just hope the promotion isn't expired by the time one of these exists (Advance Auto Parts has their own as well).

Manlius - former Mobil, NY 92

North Syracuse/Cicero - former Mobil, US 11

Syracuse (east side) - NY 5

Marcellus - former AOK, NY 174

Fairmount/Westvale  - former Sunoco, NY 5

Syracuse (Eastwood) - former Valero/Conoco/Seniora, NY 635

Chittenango - former Sunrise, NY 5 & 13

Fulton - former Wilson Farms/7-Eleven, NY 3

Cazenovia - US 20

Lyncourt - Speedway if that closes with Sunoco nearby, NY 298 & Teall Ave

Just-A-Buck

Fantasy location in North Syracuse

 Just-A-Buck is another dollar store chain, largely located in the Hudson Valley and sporadically across the country.  I heard of them when I lived down that way.  We need more competition in that category.

North Syracuse - Northern Lights (pictured) or former Haskins Oldsmobile-GMC/Salvation Army Family Store, US 11

Canastota - former Family Dollar, NY 5 & 13 and CR 25

Elbridge - former Family Dollar, NY 5

Liverpool - former Family Dollar, Old Liverpool Road

East Syracuse - former Sacks/tattoo studio, NY 290

Baldwinsville (Moyers Corners) - former Fays/Eckerd/Rite Aid, NY 31 & CR 57

Baldwinsville (Downer St.) - former Rite Aid

Manlius - former Kinney Pharmacy, NY 92

Cicero - former Green Planet Grocery, NY 31

Auburn - former Family Dollar, NY 5, former Walgreens, or Fingerlakes Mall, NY 5 & US 20

Oswego - former Peebles/Gordmans, NY 104

Utica - former Rite Aid

New Hartford - former Tuesday Morning

Hyde Park - former Grand Union/Amish Market, US 9

Cortland - former Verizon or Salvation Army store, NY 281

Family Dollar

Fargo, ND location (just needed a typical location on Creative Commons)

 Family Dollar may seem too easy being in most of the country, but even they could use a few new locations in Central New York alone, even after merging with Dollar Tree a few years ago.  A few of these would be rural as opposed to in town within miles of each other. It can't be near a Dollar Tree anymore if they're considering selling Family Dollar (see later post) and the former on the north side of Syracuse closed (which used to be Fays, while Family Dollar just down the street was the old Rite Aid). Family Dollar have been closing locations across the country, yet can open some more here in CNY.

Hyde Park - former Grand Union/Amish Market, US 9**

Elbridge - NY 5*

Canastota - NY 5 & 13 and CR 25*

Manlius - former Kinney Pharmacy, NY 92

Oswego - former Peebles/Gordmans, NY 104

Cicero - former Green Planet Grocery, NY 31

Camillus - former Chappells/the Bon-Ton (vacant section), Camillus Commons

Albany - former Save-a-Lot/Fays, NY 443 & 9W**

Bridgeport - former Kinney Pharmacy or Victory/Great American, NY 31 & 298

Alaska, Hawaii, Washington State and Oregon - various/TBD**

*Past store

**Non-CNY

Former locations

Syracuse (Onondaga Hill) - NY 175 & Grolier Hill; previously Big M; Big O, and Hill Top Market

Syracuse (south side) - NY 175; now Dollar General (first Family Dollar I can remember)

Syracuse (Lyncourt) - Shop City Plaza; previously McCrorys?; now Hair Land

Canastota - see previous list

Elbridge - see previous list

Mattydale - US 11 & E Molloy Rd; now Dollar General

Liverpool - Electronics Pkwy & Old Liverpool Rd; Liverpool Plaza; now Ace Hardware

Rochester (downtown) - W Main St**

Caldor: 70 Years On

Former Newington, CT store. Now has a Stew Leonards.

    Caldor was one of those discount department store chains that has disappeared over the years. They were only in CNY for a couple years in the mid-'90s. Before and after that, I only knew them from visiting relatives or going away to school out of town until 1999 when it was no more. Walmart stole Caldors thunder, while Target didn't even come to Syracuse and Albany until the mid-2000s. CNY and the NY Capital Region I know best, and the mid-Hudson Valley to a lesser extent, as they're the last ones I ever went to. Here are a select few in Upstate, Downstate and Connecticut (last two).

Fayetteville - 1994-96; demolished, Fayetteville Mall (now Towne Center); Target close to former site, which is the parking lot now.

Fairmount - 1994-96; demolished; Fairmount Fair; became Walmart until 2006 (moved up the road to Camillus Commons), replaced by Target

Cicero - 1994-96; previously Chappells; partially demolished and repurposed; Penn-Can Mall (now Roger Burdicks Drivers Village); became Burdick Chevrolet Buick GMC. Walmart and Target are now nearby on US 11.

Guilderland - Crossgates Mall, US 20; later Best Buy, now vacant

Clifton Park - Clifton Country Mall; demolished 2016

Henrietta - NY 252

Victor - NY 96

Greece - NY 104

Gates - NY 31?

Irondequoit - NY 104

Poughkeepsie - 43 Burnett Blvd; later Big Lots; now closed

Kingston - US 9W

Flushing - Glen Oaks; now an upscale mall

Newington (pictured) - US 5 & CT 15; now Stew Leonards

Hartford County - TBD (besides Newington)

Mt. Kisco - TBD

The Branding Source: Milton Glaser and Grand Union

Former Bolton Landing store (now a Tops)

The Branding Source: Milton Glaser and Grand Union: Grand Union was once a national supermarket chain in the United States with stores all over the country. Several decades later if had gon...

Floor & Décor

Fantasy location at Northern Lights Plaza, North Syracuse

 Once again, there's a commercial for another chain we don't have in this state yet.  This time, it's Floor & Décor.  The closest location is the Capital Region.  Time to get creative and bring them to other regions at long last:

North Syracuse - former Media Play/Burlington Coat Factory, Northern Light Plaza, US 11 (pictured)

Syracuse - former JCPenney, Destiny USA

deWitt - former Bed, Bath & Beyond; Marshalls Homegoods Plaza, NY 5

Williamsville - former Best Buy, NY 78

New Hartford - former Macys, Sangertown Square, NY 5 & 5A

Auburn - former Sears or JCPenney, Fingerlakes Mall, NY 5 & US 20

Henrietta - former Sears, Marketplace Mall, NY 252

Cortland - former flea market, Riverside Plaza, NY 13

Liverpool - former Price Chopper, CR 57

Fulton - former kmart, River Glen Plaza, NY 481

Watertown - former Sears or Christmas Tree Shops, Salmon Run Mall, NY 3 & CR 100

Ithaca - former Tops; South Meadow Plaza, NY 13/34/96

Oswego - former Gordmans/Peebles, NY 104

The Return of Grand Union

Former Utica store back in the '60s!

 The merger of Tops and Price Chopper is a done deal, and things will look like they always have except for a dozen stores that have to be spun off.  Grand Union will resurface after a decade of dormancy.  A number of rural locations around the Catskills and Adirondacks were sold to Tops, while others like Hamilton closed just as Price Chopper opened nearby (it's a small college town).  C&S still own the name and will be a franchise, but will run differently than Big M, which has individual deals across Upstate New York and Northeast Pennsylvania in outlying communities such as the Finger Lakes and Twin Tiers.  As for Grand Union, some people in CNY think it died out four decades ago, and closer to Albany, two, as Corinth and West Coxsackie are more on the outskirts of the area.

GU Markets, LLC are registered in New Hartford (which is why I chose there to base the article), although there is currently no Tops there (Hannaford took over most of those locations since then), yet there is a Price Chopper that became one of the first with the Market 32 name outside the Capital Region/518 area code and New England.  Across Oneida County, the Rome and Sherrill stores will become Grand Union, the first since the early '90s.  Even the red dot I grew up with is coming back (not the kind kitty chases!).  I went to Grand Union when visiting family in Albany County, then when I was going to school down the Hudson in Dutchess County. Now a new generation will come to know a brand whose legacy dates as far as back as the Victorian age in Lackawanna Valley and celebrates its sesqui-centennial (Price Chopper and Tops have their own milestone anniversaries in 2022).  Now when I go to Rome and Cortland in the new year, I'll have to try and eke out a stop to go and see an old friend (the old Cortland store became P&C in 1990), although it means the loss of Tops in these and other smaller towns, while both Tops and Price Chopper remain in counties where they can be far enough apart (although they're both within a mile or two of each other in Clay on NY 31).  Meanwhile, Grand Union is just one reboot that almost no one had ever expected.

There could still be more stores opened while staying a small chain compared to the others:

Syracuse (Westvale) - former P&C/Tops, NY 5 (pictured below)

Syracuse (south side) - former P&C/Tops/A&P, Valley Plaza, US 11

Mattydale  - former kmart, US 11

Hyde Park - former store, later Amish Market, US 9

Schenectady - former store, later ALDI, NY 5 & 7

Ithaca - former Tops, NY 13/34/96

Troy - former Lansingburgh Price Chopper, US 4

Palatine Bridge - former Ames, NY 5

Cortlandt Manor - US 9*

Binghamton (Nimmonsburg) - former store/Giant (local chain, not Ahold Delhaize one)/Weis, US 11 (would also give UFCW Local #1 an outpost in Broome County)

Binghamton (Southside East) - former Weis/Giant (as of 3/3/24), NY 7

Greene - former BK5 Great American, old NY 12?

Sidney - former BK5 Great American, NY 23

Montague, NJ - NJ 23*

Wayne, NJ - CR 504* (tri-state town had Grand Unions former HQ)

Slingerlands - NY 85*

Albany - NY 5*

Colonie - NY 5*

It'd be the first in Syracuse since the early '80s.  A real one used to be near here.

*former ShopRite (last three in NY Capital Region which have closed late 2023 [chain left before in late '80s, which I didn't notice then, being loyal to Grand Union!])

Times Union Center

MVP Health Arena

 Here's a post from the sister blog since several retailers with ties to the Capital District are listed.

Tim Hortons: Come Back to CNY

Newer Franklin County (Columbus/Central Ohio Capital Region) location

 Canadas coffee and donut king Tim Hortons left CNY in 2015, likely due to stiff competition from Dunkin' Donuts and other factors.  Delta Sonic in deWitt, Fairmount and North Syracuse have truncated versions of Tim Hortons, but it's just not the same or enough, of course.  Tops even had the coffee self-serve for a period in Syracuse.  Only in or near the border community and/or Monroe County can I have it full fledged, as well as northeast Pennsylvania, even if I use the app and have takeaway delivered just to save time.  I've already listed what happened to the former locations several years ago, but it's been long enough since then, that the chain could be given another chance, as some here assume it's like fellow Canadian giant Loblaws, which left the US altogether decades ago staying home since as not everyone in the States goes there, even in normal times.  Their main rival acquired several locations, and others got the rest, or no one touched a few.  A new franchise owner could do what the last one may have gotten wrong.

Syracuse (north side) - Destiny USA (former Arbys)

Syracuse (west side) - former Subway, Onondaga Blvd.

Syracuse (east side) - former Jimmy Johns, Marshall St. (SU Hill)

Syracuse (Armory Square) - former Starbucks

East Syracuse - former Starbucks/Jimmy Johns, NY 298

Ithaca - former Starbucks, College Ave.

Cortland - NY 13 (former Naples Pizza in Riverside Plaza, across from old location)

Auburn - NY 5 (past location)

Syracuse (downtown) - Marriott Syracuse Downtown [née Hotel Syracuse] (former Café Kubal/Hardees)

Liverpool - CR 57 (former Arbys)

Fulton - NY 481 (former Nestlé site)

Oswego - NY 104 (former Ponderosa site)

Mattydale - US 11 (former Friendlys)

Oneida - NY 5 & 46 (former KFC?)

Manlius - NY 92 (former Kinney Drugs)

Baldwinsville (village) - NY 31 & 370 (former Jreck Subs)

Cicero - E Circle Dr (former Jimmy Johns)

Syracuse (south side/downtown) - S Salina St (former Burger King)

Clay - NY 31, former Subway

Dollar stores

Westminster, BC store outside Vancouver.

 For over three decades, dollar stores have been todays five and dimes.  While it's too easy now to go to Family Dollar, Dollar Tree and Dollar General, there have been others in CNY and beyond.  In the early '90s, there was All for a Dollar and Everything's $1.00.  When I moved to Dutchess County, I encountered Just a Buck.  Up the Hudson River in the Capital Region, there used to be Yankee One Dollar.  There's still Real Deals around CNY (the only indie to have the one price left) and in Syracuse we have 99¢ City (once with two stores and now just the one) and Dollar Wise which are just low priced variety stores.  Many have closeout and surplus store brand items from large chains based out of town and state.  I just worry if the expiry date is reached when the item should be binned.

In Fulton, Dollar General replaced the last surviving Woolworths in the region when it closed in 1997.  Only $1 was absorbed by Dollar Tree.  That recently merged with Family Dollar.  The pandemic economy has caused people to have to buy more at these chains, which also move in on food deserts, which have been kept in check in places such as Harris County (Houston).

With the cost of many goods going up by the day, fewer places will have it all for that little, even at the one chain as I go there and can't always find what I want when I'm on a budget.  At least there's still one kind of store that will give those looking for a bargain on everyday needs.

Wyndham Hotels & Resorts

West Coast location

 Wyndham Hotels and Resorts are one of the largest hotel companies in the world.  In CNY, they only have a handful of brands currently franchised (Ramada, Super 8, Days Inn, Collegian and Microtel).  I've seen and stayed at some of these and other chains of theirs (mainly in WNY as well as the tri-state and DC/VA areas).  I've done a post on Travelodge before, and how there's a former Comfort Inn/Holiday Inn in Liverpool close to the airport that could easily be filled by one of the divisions (see below), as well as a closed Best Western right near the terminal.  There's also a vacant lot down Buckley Road where an indie motel used to be.  We used to have Howard Johnson in classic form, but it closed and the abandoned property became an eyesore on Carrier Circle for years until finally demolished, where many of the other Syracuse hotels are in proximity to Hancock right off the Thruway.  Another HoJo opened on Thompson Road around the corner, but it became a local place recently.  The new Ramada in Liverpool was previously Holiday Inn, Sheraton and Randolph House.  The old one on Buckley Road a mile away was torn down as it was cramped and dated and replaced by Hiltons Hampton Inn and Suites.  Changes to I-81 would affect business, but that's for another day.  The Wyndham Garden in Buffalo near Roswell Park was formerly a DoubleTree by Hilton (normal to switch teams in the hospitality business).  The Hawthorn Suites across town was Staybridge Suites (IHG) and Springhill Suites (Marriott).

The Wyndham chains that should come to the region are:

Travelodge

Wyndham Garden

Hawthorn Suites (the latest one I stayed in; my first trip in over three years time)

la Quinta

AmericInn

Howard Johnson (would work for smaller plots.  No longer the chain with fried clams! [apart from a spun-off location in Warren County])

Also did this with the sister chain.

The Paper Store

Fantasy location due to lack of free image

 I heard of The Paper Store through another sponsored Facebook post, and it seemed like the next idea for the blog.  The closest one is in Buffalo, and the tri-state a close second.  This is more like Hallmark stores and they used to be in CNY (one remains).  There's also The Paper Source (which could get overlapping locations not chosen by their competitor).  Both chains have entered administration because of Pandemicoras Box (a blog post all its own).  We used to have The Paper Cutter, which was sort of close, but that also had office and school supplies before OfficeMax and Staples moved on in.

North Syracuse - Northern Lights, US 11 (pictured)

Canastota - former Family Dollar, NY 5 & 13

Westvale - former Tops/P&C, NY 5

deWitt - former Bed Bath and Beyond, Marshalls Homegoods Plaza, NY 5

Auburn - Fingerlakes Mall, NY 5 & US 20

Irondequoit - Medley Center, NY 104

Henrietta - South Town Plaza, NY 252

Cortland - former flea market, Riverside Plaza, NY 13

Oswego - former Peebles/Gordmans, NY 104

New Hartford - former Herb Phillipsons, New Hartford Shopping Center

Colonie - former Barnes & Noble

Williamsville - former Best Buy, NY 78 (far enough from existing locations of both chains on US 62)

Muscle Maker Grill

Red Bank, NJ location

 Muscle Maker Grill appeared on a rerun of Undercover Boss.  When I saw that it was another franchised chain, I knew what to do.  You know the drill.

Cortland - former Naples Pizza, NY 13

North Syracuse - former Hoffmans Hot Haus/Salt City Dogs, Northern Lights, US 11

Henrietta - former Calios or Mighty Taco, NY 252

Auburn - former Tim Hortons, NY 5

Ithaca - South Meadow Plaza; NY 13, 34, & 96

Syracuse - former Subway, Onondaga Blvd. (instead of Fairmount)

Syracuse (Fairmount) - former Big Boy/IHOP/Good Buddys Pub, West Genesee St

Gabe's Stores

Clark's Summit, PA store

 Gabes Stores are new to me.  Someone brought a bag from out of town, and it looked like the next post for here.  It could replace Gordmans in some areas as it's that kind of chain.  Western New York is getting three (now open in Cheektowaga), so they may work their way across the state.  Just can't have them too close to their competitors sister stores TJ Maxx and Marshalls, which are similar in scope to give you an idea.

Oswego - former Gordmans/Peebles, NY 104

Auburn - former JCPenney, Fingerlakes Mall, NY 5 & US 20

Camillus - former Bon-Ton, Camillus Commons

North Syracuse - former Staples, Media Play or Michaels, Northern Lights, US 11 (below)

Albany - former Barnes & Noble

New Hartford - former Herb Phillipsons

Liverpool - former Price Chopper or Big Lots, CR 57

Cortland - Riverside Plaza, NY 13

Ithaca - South Meadow Plaza; NY 13, 34 & 96

deWitt - District East (née Shoppingtown Mall), NY 5

Henrietta - former Tops, NY 252

Fulton - former kmart, NY 481

Mattydale - former kmart (if North Syracuse not chosen), US 11

I believe this was the old Staples in North Syracuse.

Wahlburgers

North Weymouth, MA location

 I don't care for reality shows, but I do go for a great tasting burger.  Wahlburgers, run by Mark, Paul and Donnie Wahlberg, is growing and Mark himself asked where they should open next.  I sometimes had their Donnies Blue Bloods on at home, and I've known about both famous brothers for over three decades.  I wrote about similar chains before and one is already here, so time for another.  Not to be confused with the Wahlburger at Rochester chain Tom Wahls (wonder if this came up before).

Cortland - former Naples Pizza, NY 13

Liverpool - COR Plaza, NY 31

Syracuse (north side) - Destiny USA, former Catina Loredo

Syracuse (west side) - former Subway, Onondaga Blvd.

Syracuse (east side) - NY 5; former Red Lobster

New Hartford - former Boil Shack, NY 5A

Albany - Colonie Ctr, NY 5 & Wolf Rd

Glenmont - former Applebees, US 9W

Auburn - Fingerlakes Mall, US 20 & NY 5

Rochester - NY 252 or 15

North Syracuse - former Hoffmans Hot Haus/Salt City Dogs, Northern Lights, US 11 (below)

Amherst - former TBD, NY 78

Syracuse (Fairmount) - former Big Boy/IHOP/Good Buddys Pub, West Genesee St

Ithaca - NY 13, 34 & 96; former Hobby Lobby

Camillus - former Firehouse Subs, W Genesee St (instead of Fairmount)

Dedicated to the memory of Alma Wahlberg and Henry "Nacho" Laun.

It could even be demolished and replaced.

Local Unchained

A bank based just a county away

 I may be churning out chains, but I always go to a local business each day.  When it seems one may never come my way, I try to think of a local place that has the same thing, knowing I should be going there instead.  Even when a big chain does finally make it here, then it's like I never missed, as it's human nature to want what you can't have as recent events have taught us all.  For a start, California Pizza Kitchen and Toppers are a world away, when there is no shortage of local pizza places in any given area, even a very small town.  If I need new clothes, there's somewhere I've grown up with that not even Neiman Marcus could equal in my book if they came to the mall.

A Facebook page run by a local lover in Salisbury, MD makes it a daily mantra to show love to the mom and pop shops of the world.  He shows campaigns from across the country.  The pandemic has also heightened the need to keep spending close to home, restaurants being a huge example.  So the next time you hold a candle for something from afar, try finding a local equivalent instead if there's one around.

Thrifty Shopper

Former Chappells/Fallas/AJ Wright/CW Price

Outlet at Shop City Plaza in Syracuse

 Thrifty Shopper is the charity shop chain based in my area, and their footprint has expanded beyond Central New York around the I-81/NY 12/79/34/5/(US) 20/414/104/3/12 corridor covering a third of Upstate, going from the North Country, to the Mohawk Valley, to Southern Tier/Twin Tiers, to the Finger Lakes, and back.  There are still a few spots left to fill.  The two Oneida County stores don't have the Rescue Mission logo on the front, likely to avoid confusion with unrelated Rescue Missions in main cities Rome and Utica (New Hartford).  All but a couple national competitors remain in the whole region (the Cicero store on NY 31 used to be a St Vincent de Pauls).  There are no stores yet in Madison County, while there used to be a donation center at the Walmart in Oneida (the Auburn and Camillus ones still have theirs).  Thrifty Shopper will never be seen outside 315 (3fifteen is the name of two boutique locations on SU Hill and in Camillus) or 607, yet they are a monopoly mostly keeping out the national chains, outnumbering two of them combined in Onondaga County alone, as well as indies run by churches or smaller registered charities.

Canastota - former Family Dollar, NY 5 & CR 25

Elbridge - former Family Dollar, NY 5

Fulton - former kmart, River Glen Plaza, NY 481

Former locations (some were taken from an old donation bag displayed at 3fifteen on Marshall St. Only Auburn has been in the same place unless that moved as well since it's not that small a town. The old Big M in East Syracuse was listed as a drop-off site long before Wegmans up the street and around the county took over until 2023 and that Big M became a Thrifty Shopper itself by the end of the millennium):

Syracuse (Lyncourt) - Thrifty Shopper Outlet, Shop City Plaza; previously Chappells, AJ Wright, CW Price and Fallas; now Black Friday Bins (pictured)

Syracuse (Eastwood) - Eastwood Plaza, NY 290; closed 1999; later Café Kubal and Sacred Melody (until June 2023; soon to be Eastwood Home)

Cicero - US 11; now various businesses

Liverpool (Galeville) - Electronics Pkwy & Old Liverpool Rd; previously Carls and Fays, now Palm Market. May have been another location in plaza decades before.

Watertown - Stateway Plaza, NY 3; TBD

Fairmount (2010s) - W Genesee St; TBD

Westvale - NY 5, not the same as current location (former Sears Hardware)

North Syracuse - US 11, Northern Lights Plaza

East Syracuse - NY 290, Fremont (probably plaza that now has Dollar General and barber shop)

deWitt - NY 5, Shoppingtown (likely before 1975 when plaza converted to mall)

Liverpool (Bayberry) - CR 57, Hiawatha Plaza; not the same as current location (former Herb Phillipsons)

Manlius - NY 173?

Syracuse (south side) - US 11, Valley Plaza

Syracuse (east side) - Nottingham Plaza

Fairmount - Fairmount Fair

Half Price Books

Cedar Hill, TX store (DFW area)

 There just aren't enough places to buy books anymore.  Too easy to go to the a-word, who have two new facilities opening in my area, or Barnes & Noble, who also never have what I need anymore.  This is long overdue in the Northeast.

Albany - former Barnes & Noble

North Syracuse - former Media Play, Northern Lights, US 11

Auburn - former Bed, Bath and Beyond, Auburn Plaza, NY 5

Cortland - Riverside Plaza, NY 13

Ithaca - South Meadow Plaza, NY 13/34/96

Henrietta - former Tops, NY 252

Geneva - former Tops/CheriBundi/RealEats, US 14A

Oswego - former Gordmans/Peebles, NY 104

Liverpool - former Price Chopper/Big Lots, CR 57

New Hartford - former Herb Phillipsons

deWitt - former Bed, Bath and Beyond, Marshalls Homegoods Plaza, NY 5

Cheektowaga - former Bed, Bath and Beyond, Union Consumer Square

Amherst - former Best Buy, NY 78

Savers

Woonsocket, RI store

One more for the road.  There are another charity shop chain to cover and this time it's Savers.  What makes this one different is that they're for-profit and each location is assigned to a different charity.  I've seen one in Rochester (in the suburb Henrietta, but it has since moved to Webster) as well as near Buffalo, and went to sister chain Value Village across the border in Niagara Falls, ONT.  They too could expand their footprint as there are organisations that could use Savers.  St Josephs Hospital/Franciscan Services could be the Syracuse designée as their own shop closed ages ago, or even an upstart like one to provide driving lessons and cars for the needy just about anywhere these days.

North Syracuse - former Northern Lights (below), US 11

Auburn - former Real Deals, NY 5

Liverpool (Bayberry) - former Price Chopper/Big Lots, CR 57

Liverpool (Galeville) - former Thrifty Shopper/Carls/Fays, Old Liverpool Rd & Electronics Pkwy

Nedrow - former kmart/flea market/Grants, US 11 and Southland Dr

Canastota - former Family Dollar, NY 5 & 13 and CR 25

Cortland - former flea market, Riverside Plaza, NY 13

Ithaca - former Hobby Lobby, South Meadow Plaza, NY 13/34/96

Oswego - former Gordmans/Peebles, NY 104

Albany - former Barnes & Noble, Wolf Road

Utica - former Rite Aid, Genesee St

Fulton - former kmart, River Glen Plaza, NY 481

Fantasy location in North Syracuse

Amvets

Cheektowaga (Buffalo) store in Erie County in WNY

Amvets Thrift Store is unique as it supports our beloved veterans.  They only have stores in Western New York, downstate and Tennessee right now, and I only went to the Rochester one so far.  Here are where they can have outposts so we can help those who have fought for us.

North Syracuse - former Staples, Northern Lights; US 11

Auburn - former Real Deals, NY 5

Syracuse (south side) - former Tops/P&C/A&P, US 11

Utica - former Rite Aid, Genesee St

Canastota - former Family Dollar, NY 5 & CR 25

Albany (Colonie) - former Rite Aid/Goodwill, NY 5 & CR 155

Guilderland - former Rite Aid/Goodwill, US 20

Liverpool - former Price Chopper, CR 57

Cortland - former flea market, Riverside Plaza, NY 13

Ithaca - South Meadow Plaza, NY 13, 34 & 96

Oswego - former Gordmans/Peebles, NY 104

Binghamton - former Weis/Giant/Grand Union, US 11

Bethlehem Township, PA - former ALDI

Goodwill

Rocky Hill, CT store

Goodwill may seem too easy, but they too could use new stores.  We have a couple near me already, and I went to a couple more further out in the state, and one out of state to boot.  All would be run by the Rochester office except the Mohawk Valley stores would be operated by the tri-state affiliate, which ran the old Albany County store (a former Rite Aid; they moved to another just recently).  Just don't bring them rubbish!:

Cortland - Riverside Plaza, NY 13

Ithaca - former Rite Aid or South Meadow Square, NY 13/34/96

Utica - former Rite Aid

Auburn - former Walgreens

Canastota - former Family Dollar, NY 5

Oswego - former Gordmans/Peebles, NY 104

Menards

Celina, OH location

Menards are a home improvement chain mainly in the Midwest, but since Runnings have a store in my area, maybe this could work its way east as it's too easy to go to Home Depot and Lowes.

deWitt - former Sears, District East (née Shoppingtown Mall), NY 5

Syracuse (north side) - former JCPenney, Destiny USA

Auburn - former P&C or Fingerlakes Mall

Syracuse (south side) - former P&C/Tops/A&P or kmart/Grants/flea market, US 11

Liverpool - former Price Chopper/Big Lots, Shops at Seneca Mall, CR 57

Geneva - former Tops/RealEats/Cherribundi, Pyramid Plaza, NY 14A

Henrietta - former Tops, NY 252

Greece - former Bed, Bath & Beyond; The Mall at Greece Ridge, NY 104

Cheektowaga - Walden Galleria, former Lord & Taylor

New Hartford - former Macys, Sangertown Square, NY 5 & 5A

Cortland - Riverside Mall, NY 13

Lansing - former Sears, Shops at Ithaca Mall, NY 34

I ❤️ Mac 'n Cheese

AI mockup complete with empty pram sat outside

I just heard of I Mac 'n Cheese from a sponsored Facebook post and it looks like a place I can relate to.  A similar place used to be in deWitt.  The closest locations are downstate and in Marion County in the Indiana Capital Region.  Just when you think you've heard it all.

Cortland - former Naples Pizza, NY 13

Syracuse (north side) - Destiny USA

Liverpool, COR Plaza, NY 31

Auburn - Fingerlakes Commons, NY 5 & US 20 and Clark St Rd

North Syracuse - former Hofmann Hot Haus/Salt City Dogs, US 11 (below)

New Hartford - Sangertown Square or former Boil Shack, NY 5 & 5A

Colonie - Colonie Centre, NY 5

Henrietta - former Calios, NY 252

Syracuse (west side) - former Subway, Onondaga Blvd.

Hartford (CT Capital Region) - former Pizza Hut

Syracuse (Fairmount) - former Big Boy/IHOP/Good Buddys Pub, West Genesee St

Camillus - former Firehouse Subs, W Genesee St (instead of Fairmount)

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Kinney Drugs in the Capital Region + 4 in CNY + 1 in WNY + 1 in VT

Syracuse north side location

Kinney Drugs cover roughly a third of Upstate New York, but have yet to enter the Capital Region.  After hearing of the closing of two Walgreens stores in Albany County, and even some CVS ones, it got me thinking.  Kinney are unknown east of the Mohawk Valley, while CVS stores are few and far between until you get through the Finger Lakes.  The Albany paper says that the two that just closed are inner city and it would be inconvenient for seniors, the disabled, those without cars and who rely on CDTA.  The acquisition of many Rite Aids by Walgreens caused some overlapping and less profitable stores to close.  Kinney was formerly a franchise of Rexall, which is still a chain across the St Lawrence in Canada, while the brand is only at Dollar General in the US.  Kinney is the last chain based Upstate after Carls, Fays and Freddys were absorbed by large chains.  Kinney will never go the way of their competitors, staying here in the Northeast. Also threw in Vermont to boot, being the only other state to have Kinney to date. Rochester isn't on since Kinney won't go west of the wine belt at this time (I  know they're in Skaneateles, albeit right next door to CVS [ex-Brooks/Revco] [small town]).

Albany (downtown) - 17 N Pearl St (NY 32)

Albany (Pine Hills) - US 20 (former CVS as of September 2023)

Albany (near UAlbany) - US 20 (same as above as of November 2024)

Albany (NY 5) - 153 Central Ave (former CVS as of January 2023)

Menands - 444 N Broadway (NY 32)

Cohoes - 308 Ontario St (NY 470)

Albany (south end) - S Pearl St (NY 32)

Halfmoon - US 9

Colonie - former Barnes & Noble, Wolf Road

Albany (Beverwyck) - 581 Central Ave (NY 5)

Schenectady - 1044 State St. (NY 5)

Schenectady - 2009 Broadway (former CVS)

Guilderland - Crossgates Mall or Western Ave., US 20 (former CVS or Rite Aid/Goodwill)

Latham - 711 Troy-Schenectady Road (NY 7)

Manlius - former store (NY 92) (nobody touched it since it closed; as it just needs better promotion)

Canastota - former Rite Aid/Walgreens (NY 5 & 13)

Utica - former Rite Aid, Genesee St (former NY 5/8/12)

Syracuse - former Rite Aid/Walgreens (W Onondaga St.)

Pittsford - former Fays/Eckerd/Rite Aid (NY 31)

Burlington, VT - 158 Cherry St (previously Grand Union and Eckerd)

All former Walgreens and/or Rite Aid unless indicated.  Last five are in CNY, WNY, or VT.

Price Chopper - Tops Merger

 

Syracuse east side location

I never expected Price Chopper and Market 32 to join forces with Tops.  While it would bring one chain to an area where the other isn't, in others they can overlap, including Central New York and the North Country.  The other concern is the union as Tops are under UFCW while Price Chopper aren't.  Both chains have points programs for saving money on gas and bus passes (Tops in Syracuse for Centro; Price Chopper in Albany for CDTA).  This could also be a gamechanger for common competitor Wegmans finally coming to the Capital Region if they ever do.  New management may put an end to the Golub and Wegmans families' agreement to not enter each others backyards.

Next year, both chains are supposed to have milestone anniversaries.  Price Chopper (founded as Central Market in 1932 in Schenectady) is thirty years older than Tops, native to Western New York.

Price Chopper stores in Oneida (Tops is down NY 5 in Sherrill), Oswego, and Fulton are former Tops stores.  Tops stores in and around the Adirondacks and Catskills were Grand Union in the past as I've posted here years before.  The Hoosick Falls, Corinth and West Coxsackie stores are some of the closest to Albany.  Down the river in the mid-Hudson Valley, former sister chain Stop and Shop sold some stores to Tops and have customers save on gift cards for four gas chains to save Tops bringing their own across the state (no Tops there or back in Syracuse when I lived down that way).

If in some communities both are too close to one another such as in Watertown, one might close (although are no plans to), so it could go to a competitor like Lidl or ShopRite in the Tri-State as they closed some stores since I moved but they're union as well.

I just hope I'll still be able to save thousands like I have been doing the past several years at Tops and that the bus pass discount will continue for those of use who don't have access to a car.

From the onset, things will still look the same to everyone. Wakeferns sister chains ShopRite and PriceRite operate differently, one union and other other not respectively. Tops and Price Choppers programmes might not be interchangeable and will continue to be managed from their sides of the state as before while the main office will be at the eastern end of the I-90 Thruway corridor.

Destiny USA

 

Carousel entrance

The pandemic has affected malls across the country and Destiny USA (née Carousel Centre) is no exception.  JCPenney, Michaels, and Lord & Taylor have just left and Best Buy are next.  Smaller stores have also closed.  It may be some time before anyone takes a gamble on opening here as more people were shopping online even before last year.  It would be nice to have these come in someday:

von Maur

Bloomingdales (sister to Macys)

Boscovs (in sister mall Sangertown Square in former Sears in New Hartford)

Zara

Ultimate Athletics (even though there's Dicks in the Canyon section)

IKEA (they usually stick to big areas in the US)

Amazon 4-Star (Amazon Fresh was considered, but pulled out)

Altar'd

Åland

California Pizza Kitchen

I Heart Mac & Cheese

Ross Dress for Less (although Burlington are already down cellar)

Shoe Carnival

Long John Silvers

Primark (Irish chains international name that I heard of from the UK)*

Whealthy (healthalicious chain new to the Northeast)*

Newbury Comics (New England chain that I went to in Boston on hols once or twice)*

*Recently opened in or coming soon to sister mall Crossgates Mall on US 20 in Guilderland in Albany County according to ABC 10/Fox 23.  Will go further with each at a later time.

Dedicated to the memory of Robert Congel.